tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post3264188071833135907..comments2024-02-05T09:41:53.353+00:00Comments on The Chief Executive: Belvoir Fruit Farms Ginger Cordial - 'new fiery recipe' disasterUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-73797407795385084352021-06-29T23:31:39.661+01:002021-06-29T23:31:39.661+01:00Has nobody commented since 22 September 2018? I m...Has nobody commented since 22 September 2018? I made a seamless transition to the fiery version through being so delighted to get a bottle that 'more capsicum / less ginger / not so cloudy' really didn't affect my enjoyment. Friends brought me out a bottle (I live in France) and I recently travelled back home with a couple of extra bottles to savour. Now I have to make it myself and I have been experimenting with recipes. The one above looks interesting but personally I dont need all the other flavours...ginger, lemon, even a touch of capiscum is enough. So this is one I use regularly: Makes: just under 2lt of cordial<br /><br /> 200g fresh ginger<br /> 1.5 litres water<br /> 500g granulated white sugar<br /> Juice and zest of two lemons<br /> 1 tsp citric acid<br /><br />Slice the ginger thinly (dont use ginger that's been frozen it loses a lot of its flavour. Bring to boil and simmer for about 45 mins until it starts to look a bit syrupy. Strain and bottle. I get about 3 bottles and freeze two - that way it doesnt go off. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-79344828906185519872018-09-22T06:48:56.480+01:002018-09-22T06:48:56.480+01:00Loving this thread. Recently became a Belvoir Ging...Loving this thread. Recently became a Belvoir Ginger Addict of 3rd Recipe sadly never tried the first. Find it very expensive though so decided to try making my own. Lots of recipes out there but the one above looks very interesting so will add to my to do list. Has anyone else found good recipes? I will add reviews of ones I have tried when I eventually get round to them ��Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04934553902680193534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-28832432407558751662018-06-25T12:09:29.096+01:002018-06-25T12:09:29.096+01:00Just found this, why not try making your own i do,...Just found this, why not try making your own i do, <br />1kilo ginger<br />!kilo demererra sugar<br />3 litres water<br />7 or 8 crushed cardamon pods<br />3 star anise<br />couple of pieces cinnamom bark<br />few peppercornsjuice of 4 lemons<br />chopped rind from 2 lemons<br />30 grams citric acid<br />Method<br />melt sugar in water<br />blitz ginger in blender (ileave the skin on)<br />add all other ingredients bring to the boil and simmer for an hour let cool and sieve squeezing every last drop out then bottle.<br />tastes great i get my ginger from my local market a kilo is about £1-80<br />have a try you may be plessantly surprised.<br /><br />add to sugar water with Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15522444361033378943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-19737796119763220342018-01-04T22:30:28.026+00:002018-01-04T22:30:28.026+00:00I think it's a great product. Ginger flavour i...I think it's a great product. Ginger flavour is good, chilli gives it fire.use a carbonated water or a soda stream and presto. Great for adding to cooking recipes to I use it a lot. All said and done you could always make your own.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06275833426601037139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-69059936923317373382018-01-04T22:30:27.084+00:002018-01-04T22:30:27.084+00:00I think it's a great product. Ginger flavour i...I think it's a great product. Ginger flavour is good, chilli gives it fire.use a carbonated water or a soda stream and presto. Great for adding to cooking recipes to I use it a lot. All said and done you could always make your own.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06275833426601037139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-53175650013648896152017-07-04T12:47:56.761+01:002017-07-04T12:47:56.761+01:00Ah, £1.89 would be great. £4.99 is ludicrous, espe...Ah, £1.89 would be great. £4.99 is ludicrous, especially at the rate I drink it. I wonder if I should try to get it only at the discounted price - anything over £3 is a bit steep for a bottle of cordial.<br /><br />I popped into the same Tesco today (sadly it is Tesco or nothing for a few miles for me) and to my surprise they were doing bottles £2.50, and one does not need to buy them in pairs.<br /><br />So I bought six to stock up. I would guess you're right, the offer must be from Belvoir to be replicated over so many resellers, and offline too.<br /><br />I think I need to start writing an opening date on each bottle, to see how long they last. If I can get a bottle to last a full week, a small miracle has happened. How long before Belvoir Fruit Farms open an addiction recovery centre for the additional income stream? :-)<br />Jonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-57625859704850672892017-07-03T12:26:53.304+01:002017-07-03T12:26:53.304+01:00Jon - I did buy half a dozen bottles at £2.36 in W...Jon - I did buy half a dozen bottles at £2.36 in Waitrose last time it was on offer (we had a had a £6 off a £30 spend coupon so that tipped the scale making it £1.89 a bottle) 2 for £5 is ok (but we don't have a valid discount coupon now). I suspect the wholesale price is higher than £2.50 judging by the number of garden centres that sell it at £4.99. The Waitrose offer will be subsidised with heavily discounted stock from Belvoir to win new customers. I'm getting used to the new recipe - although conversely I find it works better for me as much weaker mix (less afterburn!). TheChiefExecutivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-90876500151938497642017-07-02T16:20:46.412+01:002017-07-02T16:20:46.412+01:00Good updates to the post!
Thanks for the tip abou...Good updates to the post!<br /><br />Thanks for the tip about Waitrose. I've noticed they are doing a 2 for £5 deal online at present. I will see if I can get to a supermarket to match that, to avoid any carriage charges:<br /><br />http://www.waitrose.com/shop/DisplayProductFlyout?productId=25670<br /><br />My local Tesco has the £3.15 price, and while I think it's a fine drink, I can't really stock up at that price either, I expect I'd be buying a crate. Like you, I make it quite strong, and I also drink it by the pint, which makes it rather an expensive cordial.<br /><br />Perhaps we should look into wholesalers...<br />Jonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-18606924046655816922017-06-05T10:50:40.433+01:002017-06-05T10:50:40.433+01:00I've updated the original article to review th...I've updated the original article to review the latest '3rd' recipe which is the one currently on sale. Please feel free to join the discussion with your own reviews.TheChiefExecutivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-89621406983548328592017-06-02T23:41:08.639+01:002017-06-02T23:41:08.639+01:00Jon - yes you are a fan of the third recipe. I fee...Jon - yes you are a fan of the third recipe. I feel remiss that I haven't tried it yet but I still have some bottles left of the original recipe. They are past the best before date but still delicious. TheChiefExecutivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-86572853749032612512017-06-02T22:27:38.946+01:002017-06-02T22:27:38.946+01:00Thanks for the discussion! I am a big fan of this ...Thanks for the discussion! I am a big fan of this drink, but I discovered it in the last six months or so. I haven't tried the "10 pints" version. However the version I know has some good ginger fire to it, and a lengthy finish with a pleasing bit of zing and pepper.<br /><br />Given the last comment in Dec 2016, I wonder if I am drinking a third recipe, rather than the second one that people did not like? The ingredients list is different to both versions in the post:<br /><br /><i>Sugar, water, lemon juice (from concentrate), fresh root ginger infusion 11%, pressed ginger juice 2% (not from concentrate), ginger extracts, capsicum extract.</i><br /><br />I too am considering a bulk order - I buy three at a time from Tesco, and I think each one must be lasting all of a week!<br />Jonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-80622823980170052762016-12-17T11:25:11.739+00:002016-12-17T11:25:11.739+00:00Thanks for the recent comments. I also noticed las...Thanks for the recent comments. I also noticed last month that the recipe has been revised.<br /><br /> I bulk bought supplies of the original recipe when I wrote this post and still have around a dozen bottles left, so I have no requirement to buy the new recipe. <br /><br />I looked carefully at the new ingredients and can see the ginger element has been completely re-formulated which can only be an improvement. Belvoir seem to listen to their customers, and for that alone they deserve special praise. <br /><br />If you're reading this please comment and let everyone know how the 2016 recipe compares to the original (or indeed the 'fiery' version. When I get towards my last bottle of the original recipe I will do a side by side taste test.TheChiefExecutivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-36946441938255238462016-12-16T22:51:57.179+00:002016-12-16T22:51:57.179+00:00( Loved those comment corrections :-) thanks for u...( Loved those comment corrections :-) thanks for update suggesting it's changed, shall now give it another go. I wasn't impressed with the burning chilli element. Though yes to the sugar rather than glucose syrup (or God forbid, 'sweeteners' which are ruining so many drinks). Felt sorry for Belvoir people but sure it'll become a great story they can tell to demonstrate achieving such loyal fansAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-40167516410644098282016-11-25T16:11:20.190+00:002016-11-25T16:11:20.190+00:00Back to three comments ago, not "waitress in ...Back to three comments ago, not "waitress in Singapore" but "Waitrose in Ringwood" - My tablet thinks too quickly!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-85866205636085013222016-11-25T16:04:32.536+00:002016-11-25T16:04:32.536+00:00Oh, still wrong, should read "a slug of cheap...Oh, still wrong, should read "a slug of cheap brandy"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-28447920864632960822016-11-25T16:01:36.020+00:002016-11-25T16:01:36.020+00:00Sorry, spelling mistake on previous comment - for ...Sorry, spelling mistake on previous comment - for stood read slugAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-2781429637973174802016-11-25T15:57:32.768+00:002016-11-25T15:57:32.768+00:00I was running low on ginger cordial and looking to...I was running low on ginger cordial and looking to buy more. Waitress in Singapore was out of stock so I looked up how to make my own and came across these comments. Luckily when we went to Morrison's in Verwood, I found a stock of the old version and bought 3 bottles. Back home ,I got back onto this comment and checked my new bottles for ingredients. I can find no indication of there being capsicum, only pressed ginger juice and lemon, just the same as on my previous bottles. This is now a year later than the first comment I read mentioning capsicum, and also that the new liquid was clear. So hopefully, Belvoir have come up with a new recipe. The NEW RECIPE lable is quite large and is at the top of the main lable. My favorite drink is Cranberry LIGHT with a large dash of NYC and a splash of water - delicious. On special days, like Friday evening, stood your of cheap brandy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-82956249301359654602016-09-19T02:17:06.532+01:002016-09-19T02:17:06.532+01:00I'd love to know how much capsicum I need to m...I'd love to know how much capsicum I need to make one bottle. And anyway it's good for you to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-43685705254398615652016-09-19T02:15:05.728+01:002016-09-19T02:15:05.728+01:00I love it. Infact I've just had a go at making...I love it. Infact I've just had a go at making it. This cordial has inspired me and that's saying something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-89789327525365613992016-08-08T08:41:45.104+01:002016-08-08T08:41:45.104+01:00I have always liked this product but have only jus...I have always liked this product but have only just tied up that I am experiencing an allergic reaction to drinking it. I sneezed so violently a week ago that I then had gastric reflux! I then felt ill the rest of the day with indigestion so bad it was as if I had swallowed glass.<br />Yesterday the penny dropped when symptoms started as soon as I was again enjoying a glass of ginger cordial with sparkling water and this time it was so bad, eyes watering, nose running, violent sneezing that I ended up taking an antihistamine. This morning I still keep sneezing and my lips still feel numb.I realise this is the capsicum now added to the drink and I will have to avoid this drink in future. It is strange as I have no other allergies and eat peppers chillies etc with no effect other than finding some a bit hot like scotch bonnets in chilli con carne so I am mystified.Wendynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-13309894825556355052015-10-08T20:21:08.666+01:002015-10-08T20:21:08.666+01:00Dear oh dear. Belvoir really have made a huge blun...Dear oh dear. Belvoir really have made a huge blunder here. There isnt just one supplier for the ginger extract they need, they could find another. This is clearly all about cost savings - they are, I'm sorry to say, going the way of all small producers and cutting the quality in favour of the cash. Just because they are stating a consistent story to their disgruntled, previously loyal customers that does not mean it is accurate. <br /><br />One of the revealing things they say is that the previous ginger extract contained "undisclosed" capsicum (chilli). What on earth are they admitting? - that they knew there were other ingredients that they, by law, should have declared but did not?! No, I'm sorry Belvoir, but nobody buys this argument. You've downgraded your ginger input and had to augment the kick with chilli, plain and simple. After all, why hide the fact you include this ingredient by stating "capsicum extract" rather than "chilli extract"?? You are embarrassed by your actions and we are saddened.<br /><br />We'll be watching the downgrading of your other drinks which will clearly be happening soon.<br /><br />Shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-66348430441694933892015-08-25T11:45:11.592+01:002015-08-25T11:45:11.592+01:00I will do ! Many thanks. PevI will do ! Many thanks. PevPev Mannershttp://www.belvoirfruitfarms.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-36448883600174278392015-08-24T23:27:59.606+01:002015-08-24T23:27:59.606+01:00Hello Pev, welcome to our discussion and thank you...Hello Pev, welcome to our discussion and thank you very much for your explanation - which is entirely consistent with the answer I was given when I first phoned Belvoir Fruit Farm. I was impressed by the personal response I received then, and I am again by your candour now. I'm sure the many fans of the original recipe will be really pleased to hear that you are considering a rethink of the recipe, because I know I would love to buy the drink again. The ginger cordial market is poorly served and I hope you will come up with a winning recipe. Thank you for clarifying the points made here about capsicum, the ginger extract and sugar v glucose content. Please do let us know about any new products.TheChiefExecutivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-12078475823354771522015-08-24T15:58:04.175+01:002015-08-24T15:58:04.175+01:00Dear all, I am very sorry you don't like our n...Dear all, I am very sorry you don't like our new Ginger Cordial. We changed the recipe because the old ginger extract we were using was no longer available, I believe it did contain capsicum as well. <br />We worked really hard to try to get the new recipe to have the same rich taste of fresh ginger, which is why we increased the amount of the fresh ginger extract we make here by cooking fresh ginger from 8% to 20%, we also removed the glucose because it is apparently worse than sugar for one as it has a higher Glycaemic Index. We then added some lemon for refreshment. We absolutely did not do these changes for cost reasons but because we could no longer get the old ginger extract. We found some new ones which we think are delicious and added just a little capsicum to add some heat to the brew, mimicking the amount of capsicum that was in the old recipe (but undeclared), we thought we had made a good brew. I am sorry we did not make the new recipe clearer and we have obviously not succeeded with the taste so we will try again to improve the recipe. Thanks for the comments and best wishes, Pev Manners (MD of Belvoir Fruit Farms, which is certainly NOT the size of Coke but a family-owned business.)Pev Mannershttp://www.belvoirfruitfarms.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414920407208458160.post-41282253263711451972015-08-04T11:52:15.694+01:002015-08-04T11:52:15.694+01:00Thank you for the research. My initial thought was...Thank you for the research. My initial thought was that they had a problem with a production batch. Unfortunately that's not true.<br /><br />The new recipe has a much harsher acidic flavour, without the warmth of ginger. I also notice from reading the label that they've resorted to adding capsaicin, which is an utterly unrelated hot flavour from chilli that can be an irritant for some people. Not what you want in a ginger cordial when ginger can be useful for digestive trouble and nausea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com